Isn't this argument premised mostly on momentum? i.e., the fact that Fox has been around so long - and because it had/had a foothold in so many places - it will continue have that foothold.

I have heard - through various sources - that aspects of JFast are either being written or are being re-written in .NET. That is not to say that Fox is being chucked - but its position in many places is eroding.

To say that .NET will NEVER have the penetration or kind of success VFP had in your experience is not supported by the facts. Today - it is quite likely that .NET is in use in more places than ever used Fox. There is still more VB 6 than Fox.

Usually, when I hear the words Fox and .NET together - it is usually in the context of .NET supplanting Fox. I believe the city of Tulsa OK is but one example in which 19+ Fox apps are being migrated to .NET/SQL Server.

None of this is to say or imply that you cannot deliver solutions and value in Fox - you definitely can. But - to say or imply you cannot do the same thing in .NET is an absurd overstatement.

>Dale,
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>Great post and I couldn't agree with you more!
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>FoxPro has infiltrated businesses from the family shop in the middle of nowhere to the largest companies and institutions in NYC. The United States military has a large investment in mission-critical VFP applications for managing troop movement and protecting our country. In 2004 FoxPro will be 20 YEARS OLD! The reason for all of this is simple... all businesses depend on data and there is no single software development tool as versatile for working with data than VFP.
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>.NET will NEVER have this kind of success and extensive penetration into businesses during my career as a software developer as VFP.
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>Rock on Fox!
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>>Terry,
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>>I agree with just about everything you've said in this thread.
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>>There are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands small to medium sized businesses out there that want custom solutions to their business problems.
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>>The ones I've come into contact with over the last 20+ years want a solution. They might want references or samples of what I've done, but rarely do I get asked "what language do you use?"
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>>I have more than enough work to keep me busy for years, using the FOX. If I wanted more projects, I would have no trouble finding them. And, I wouldn't even continue a discussion with a potential prospect that was unwilling to commit to a minimum $2000.00 get started payment.
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>>All these naysayers are looking in the wrong places if they think VFP is dieing.
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>>I've studied .NET. I have MSDN Universal and installed VB and C#. I bought Kevin's book (.NET for Visual FoxPro Developers). I read CODE magazine, etc. I've done my duty.....I've given .NET a look and compared it to VFP.
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>>In it's present form, .NET does NOT impress me. I will continue to play with it, BUT my "bread and butter" is VFP and that's where I'm planning on staying for the forseeable future.
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>>If I'm still around 10 years from now, I expect to still be reading about how the FOX is dieing.
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>>Have a good one!