>>I'm not familar with BitmapDC. I know it's not part of the Win 32 API, but nothing else. In regards to foxtools, I should point out that as of about 6 months ago, I didn't know about these functions either. I only knew what was in the foxtools.wri file. It was Rick Strahl who pointed out the _WFindTitl() and _WhTohWnd() functions to me. It was his insights, not mine, along with some questions that were posted here that led me to research the subject more thoroughly, and, in turn, led to the help file.
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>OK, Rick pushed you and you pushed me, it confirms one more time that UT is great.

I second, third, and fourth that motion.:-) And it's from exchanges like this, both as a participant and as a reader, that I've learned, and been motivated to learn, more than any book or other source could teach me.