>>No way. Not in a Web app... In a Web app you usually do small things at a time. If I want to look at an item I don't want or need to have anything happen with my customer table. Again I suspect the overhead isn't gigantic, but its there. Maybe I'm overreacting on this.<

Well, I doubt if it's a big hit, but yeah, there would be *some* overhead. Anyway, I keep looking at things more for a Win app and you look at them for a Web app ... slightly different perspective for some things.

>>I went ahead and created a small builder to build a DataRow wrapper that is fairly lean and provides an as needed wrapper. So I can use my bus objects like usual and when I need typed access I can just store the row and it's available that way. This way read operations that load up data into lists etc don't take the hit...<

Sounds like the perfect solution for your needs.

>>Anyway, it looks like it works for you. I hate reinventing the wheel too, but sometimes it pays off giving something a little more flexibility without so much of a hit <g> <

You know, if everyone wrote the exact same kind of application, we'd all be competing with one another for sales. <g> Every app is different and has different requirements, so there's no "right" way to do some things. Yeah, Typed DataSets work for me ... and I'm a big evangelist of them <g> ... but, looks like you found a way to make something slightly different work similarly and that's great! Innovation is the key to success in our business. <s>

~~Bonnie