>Using the terms "Science and Engineering" when relating to computers is something that bothers me. There is little agreement as to what to call any person working in the computer industry. Software Developer, Software Engineer, Programmer, Application Developer and the list goes on.

After 35 years of experience in photography, I always think the developer is the first solution (as in "dissolve", not as "a remedy to a problem" - dang overuse of words in English) in the laboratory, and the second one was the fixer. Somehow I never can imagine programmers in bottles.

>These terms seem like an attempt to justify and legitimize a discipline we cannot otherwise define. Why not use terms that are created for the computer phenomenon?
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>Software developers could be called “hackers”, dba’s “useless”, SQA = “complainer”, analysis’s = “nit pickers”, and so on. :)

Medicine already has similar classification:

knows nothing can do nothing - psychiatrist
knows all can do nothing - internist
knows nothing can do all - surgeon
knows all can do all - pathologist, but it's too late.