>Jon - the original quote was..
>A Gentleman and a scholar and fine judge of horse.
>If the horse has been whipped into submission, or whipped into dogfood, which does it matter ?
>The Horse has been whipped, regardless ..
>
>I've found it rare to find a pundit who has all three qualities - and I'm not nitpicking here on your exclusion - but fwiw, it did include 'a fine judge of horse' ..
>
>muttering into me beer, and returning back to da thread, mondo regards [Bill]

Hi Bill. Did'nt know that so I guess its true one learns something new everyday. Thanks for that. Back to the whipping now :)