>I'll keep it short...
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>"...grave and gathering..." was urgent enough in the President's mind that he went to war without his coalition.

President Bush made the "grave and gathering" comment to the U.N. in September 2002. The coalition went to war 6 months later. Is that your definition of imminent? 6 months later?

And despite what you may have read in the LA Times or NY Times, there was a coalition. Here is a list of some of the countries that supported us:

Great Britain
Australia
Poland
Spain
Kuwait
Saudia Arabia

>"...real and present..." sure has me interpreting "present" as even closer in that 'imminent' - NOW!

As I wrote earlier, the Soviet Union was a real and present danger during the Cold War, but not an imminent threat. North Korea is a real and present danger NOW, but not an imminent threat. No matter how you or the LA Times try twist the words, they aren't what you say they are.

>Finally, both the President and his henchpersons spoke far more often than 2 times and imminence was a theme very often.

And yet no one can provide any proof that anyone in the administration said anything like imminent. I have provided the links to the full text of the 2 most important speeches President Bush made on the subject. Where is your proof?