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WMDs on Frontline tonight
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01/02/2004 15:23:20
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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Dear Chris

I must correct you again that your various accusations that I misquoted Bush, are without merit. I posted quotations from actual speeches, plus snips whose sources I clearly identified, posted to provide alternative viewpoints and/or an international perspective to an assertion you made. Just a reminder so we can all be clear.

As for the article you post: it contains some excellent points, but also some rather contrived coverage of incidents where admin staff agreed or stated using similes that the threat was imminent. I do agree with the article that "nuance" is important and that one might argue that despite having said once or twice that the threat was imminent, the intended thrust from the President and his administration might have been something different. We'd have to poll those on the receiving end to comment further.

But does it really matter? Why the focus on this semantic topic when the real issue is that many conservatives, including you, were completely certain that WMD existed in Iraq and that this justified an attack? Well, no WMD. The "imminent threat" does seem to be a canard to distract, perhaps?

Finally: did you read the whole article you posted? Here is the last paragraph:

>>Those unfair attacks do not make it legitimate for Bush supporters to jump on any critic who uses the phrase, however, or claim that nobody in the administration ever suggested Iraq could pose an "imminent threat." Complexity is not an excuse for cheap shots from either side.

But according to you:

>>I think the article gives the most sound argument that the Bush administration did not claim that Iraq was an imminent threat. I have little doubt you will disagree.

Well, since even your own "supportive" article seems to call your position "illegitimate" and/or a "cheap shot", I don't need to comment further at all. Except to repeat that the "unfair attacks" did not come from me; all I did was quote directly from speeches and post links and snips whose sources were clearly attributed, provided in the interests of balance.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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