Do you think things like this happen to C# or Delphi programmers? I should be thankful that my company lets me continue to write in VFP. Yesterday I spend about 30 minutes helping a fellow programmer who was trying to get Delphi to return the minutes portion of a datetime variable as an integer. If the minutes were 58 it would return 57 when converted to an integer. We finally found a way to make it give the right answer but it wasn't easy. I guess I am spoiled by how easily most things are done in VFP.