>>Well yes, with CA I almost never use builders/designers.
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>That is VFP8, I still use VFP6sp5.

Oh you mean RV prgrammatically, again yes :) What I do is :
-Run home()+'tools\gendbc\gendbc' and get programmatic version of view/tables creating.
-From DBC drop the view
-Find my view's creation code in generated code
-Edit code to set properties (easier in code rather than designer + designer can't handle all types of views)
-Select the edited portion and click execute
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