>Terry,
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>Yep I used a framework. I am looking now to see if I can get rid of some of the classes that I am not using.
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>Paul

I thought so - those guys leave a big footprint. I saw a demo once - a framework was used to create a form with a pagecontrol - a 5 column grid and a 5 textbox (field) - each on one page.Compiled to an EXE, it came to over 2 MB. W/O a framework the same "project" had less than a 100K EXE.