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>>I would venture to say that MS is fully aware of the overall professionalism of the VB programming community and this is why they are very slow to adopt as great of an OOP model as Fox has. They probably figure they would lose a great number of VB adherents and THAT is MS worst nightmare.
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>I personally think that the number of amateur coders started to drop with the advent of the Foundation READ (ugh). In fact, I know a number of them that dropped FoxPro because they couldn't figure it out. Then again, they couldn't bring them selves to use the Screen, Menu or Report designers, either. :-)

Now that I think about it more, you are completely correct...I had forgotten about the mass hysteria that the Foundation READ invoked.