Hullo Kiss -
I don't use Grids for Data Entry -
instead ? user clicks on an entry in a grid -
and another 'thing' pops up - could be a pageframe, could be a new form -
but I absolutely refuse [for my apps] to 'let' a user do record edit in a grid.

In the design patterns documents you read, did it tout Grids as the 'thing' to use for Data Entry ?

all the best [Bill]