>Bruce, > >That big with PACKing VCXes? You might on a copy of the project in another folder doing a REPLACE ALL METHODS with "" for the classlibs and forms and see if that cuts the size way back, because all of your method code text is buried inside the EXE. VFP3 shipped with the BUILDAPP utility that could strip the source code out. I'll take a look at BUILDAPP again, I haven't tried it for a long while. But, yes, it's big...I've cleaned it up periodically, but it's just plain big, with over 100 forms/pages. I removed all reports, that helped quite a bit...when we get near completion, I'll clean up every little thing possible, but it will still be a very large app. But if someone (Rick) can run a 9.5 MB app, I should be in pretty good shape, I guess... [ ...and GMRider added: ] My .02 worth... back in the stone age (FPD), I had an application (standalone exe) of about 2.5MB that was running on a customer's pcxt with 512K of ram... it ran (crawled?), flogged the hell out of the hard disk, but never crashed and always processed the work. Dr Dave Fulton always said it was just a packaging issue and the size was totally irrelevant...