Dan,

Nope, that's not it. The form that blows up is a form that is automatically added to the project at startup time and is instantiated from the framework. Like I said, most of the code must be generated at runtime, because some of the page frames don't even have any objects on them? Would be nice to figure this one out, though. It will sure save me from having to write my own user group routines and forms! Thanks again and let me know if you think of anything more on this...

Scott

>Scott,
>I used to get that problem all of the time, but I can't remember what it is.... I think it was something such as making sure BO's on the form are "Sent to Back". I can't remember though and I don't use security, yet.
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>>Have not resolved this issue yet! Seems that many of the controls on the userform and usergroupform forms are generated dynamically at run time. I just can't seem to narrow down what I need to do to make this work...it is getting a little frustrating.
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>In line with this, I can't get the full access security to work at all. I've followed Kevin's Documentation instructions to the "T", but it doesn't seem to work?
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>I'm wondering if it's time to move to a different framework, since the support here seems to have declined significantly over the past two months?
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>Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Dan!