Bravo Mr Ryan! I really like and respect your professional, non-arrogant and tactful style of debate in these discussions. Well done sir!

>Dear John
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>The "head-in-the-sand" crowd will never accept that you can do in .net what you can do in fox, sometimes more efficiently, sometimes less efficiently.
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>This sort of smug commentary is the cause of a great deal of angst originating in your part of the world. What makes you so superior that you can make sweeping derogatory comments of that nature?
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>Fact: I see nobody who does not accept the things you say. All I see a single example with an unexpected result, to which people responded with the most common causes of inefficiency- the scatter memvar, for example- with extra information trickling out to counter those points. I see an inexplicably complex SQL query with joins of no apparent purpose and selecting multiple fields when just one is wanted, and a mismatch between that single field and the stated purpose- how can you sensibly do queries against a resultset with just a primary key? And why would you keep just the primary having pulled all the client data?
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>Fact: if these results prove reproducable and relevant, that will be useful and interesting knowledge. To establish this, it is reasonable- even normal- to challenge the parameters of the test. The proof is stronger if it survives the challenge.
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>If you are saying that people should simply accept such examples without question, then you should not be going around saying that others have their heads in the sand.