>But that is not the point. What you have here is for the first time, Fox code that operates on Fox Data - having to be optimized to reach levels of performance reached by .NET...

I don't know how they do things in PA, but, usually developers optimize their code because it adds value to the project. Who do you know that is not optimizing their code?

Come on John - the hey day of the sloppy consultant project died in 1992!:-)