Well, Craig, I posted an email reply to you before I'd seen that the email was posted here and I hate typing the same stuff twice :-D

As to VFP visibility: I'm sure that a lot of UT members have written enterprise-level apps that would look good written up as articles in ComputerWorld or InfoWorld or other trade mag. Perhaps if we can get a few of those apps written up then we have something to point to that IT managers can look at and maybe pry a few of them loose from that VB mentality, eh?