One of the down falls of a self taught developer is a lask of disipline. Someone came to me and said "I need this". Another saw that and needed this. Here I am two years later and what started out as a simple report on some departmental activity, now supports the whole company with electronic workflow and data. I wish I could go back and plan out the processes and results. I believe my app would probally be better. I have made several revisions, applying what I learn here on the UT, but sometimes I wish I could just start form scratch.