>>>The Fox community has got to have the biggest collection fo folks that do the same things today they did 15 years ago....
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If you are correct... so what? If it is good business, why go through the turmoil of changing it around just because people whose own business depends on "coolness" (your word) or "experts" that rely on new technology to create expertise opportunities for themselves, are promoting something different?
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As you say, IF it is good business. The computing world has changed - and it has nothign to do with "coolness". There have been fundemental shifts. And if you don't realize that, so be it. Perhaps you can clarify the issue for the next Fox developer who is pounding his chest to the world, begging the world to believe his tool is still relevant...