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There are people for whom VFP is always the best choice. There are people for whom dotNET is always the best choice. I'm completely neutral toward both groups. I only comment when I see dotNET people acting superior, as if they are some sort of high-fiveing, sickeningly self-satisfied elite that has "seen the light" while those who stick with VFP are lumpen dullard slouches.
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I don't have a problem with people who think VFP is always the best choice - as long as they don't swipe at people who think .NET is a better choice than VFP. The people I refer to are so insecure about the state of affairs of Fox - they will go to any lengths to silence other points of view.

I don't see .NET people as acting superior. What I do see is .NET people defending against attacks by VFP-Folk who continually refer to .NET as .NOT. These VFP-Folk tend to get frustrated easily becuase there arguments are not very sound. And - they don't like the fact that as each day goes by, yet another VFP project is getting converted or another VFP developer has jumped ship.

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There is no business or intellectual basis for that conceit, and if unchallenged it does a great disservice by drawing the community towards FUD and "Emperor's Clothes" thinking. So from pure selfishness I speak up, as do quite a few others who are better educated about dotNET than you might think but choose to rely on VFP in many cases.
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But John - the problem is that you are not being even-handed. You never challenge the VFP is best and .NET sucks crowd that attack people who advocate tools other than Fox. You seem to either turn a blind eye and/or give these people a free pass. Take Bill Sanders for example. Because of my opinions - he openly advocated to have me banned from every Fox online forum.

Go back through the archives - and you will find that without exception, it was sombody else chucking the barbs my way before I got hostile. It all goes back to when I was an MVP and I started knocking other MVP's for giving what was bad advice. That is where the "JVP Bad Boy" rep came into being. At first, I tried being nice - gently telling people that what they were recommending - was not a good practice. That did not work - so I had to be little more forceful. I make no appologies for that. The UT - technically - became a better place. The water shed event was Steve Black - coming at me with full force - over my advocacy of other tools to work with Fox and at times - to work in place of Fox. My position was to help those Fox developers who were having difficult times finding Fox work. To those people, I advocated that they should learn something else. And, given that all trends in the Fox world were down - any developer that only had Fox in their toolbox - they too should learn something else. Whether they did or did not - I did not care. I only cared when they told others that to follow my advice - they were foolish. The most graphic example was Steve Black - labeling people like me, Rod, Max, etc. - as being intellectually dishonest because of our advocacy of .NET.

There is a lot of history John - which you are all too aware of.


>>>You seem to reserve your rebukes for me - while givng others a free pass.
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>Yes, that is probably true. Time for me to look in the mirror. I apologize.

Glad you can see that.

You are a smart guy - and I am not just saying that. You have good insights. And if I do say so myself - so do I. Indeed, reasonable people can differ. The key is, both sides have to be reasonable.

John