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17/09/2004 16:17:37
Jason Mesches
Ocean Systems Engineering Corporation
Carlsbad, Californie, États-Unis
 
 
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Jim,
Agreed for the most part.

I don't necessarily share your view about employers' concerns for their employees. On the contrary, I believe that CEOs know the value of their employees. But, as usual, capitalism demands those concerns are balanced against the financial bottom line... and in the end, it's the dollar that wins.

And you're certainly correct about level playing fields. But if we (the global/royal "we") don't find a way to help them achieve the same level, they never will.
---J

>The problem is, Jason, corporations don't really want "competition" (they want it all) and more importantly they have little regard for the "workforce".
>If these employers has a modicum of concern for "their" workers there wouldn't be child labour and there wouldn't be sweat-shops and there wouldn't be workers earning 80cents a day and paying 40cents back as 'room' (a bunk in a barracks) and 'board' (2 bowls of rice a day) and there wouldn't be 14-18 hour days in those places and there wouldn't be workers getting sick or hurt in big numbers at their workplaces and there wouldn't be huge smokestacks spewing untreated emissions over the countryside and there wouldn't be rivers and lakes polluted with crap that harms the people who are so used to using that water for drinking and washing and cleaning and there would be... you get the picture.
>
>I put "their" (workers) in quotes deliberately because the workers doing the work are surely making the corporation's product BUT they are employed by third-parties. The corporation love this - it's similar to "part-timers" here but with far more flexibility for the corporation! The corporation is able to push for higher quotas and it becomes the real employers' problem to meet the new quotas. The corporations push for lower prices and the real employers have to meet the new lower prices somehow. And so it goes. And, by the way, this is the WalMart model to a tee!
>One final factor... the "workforce" in China particularly is totally controlled by the Party elite and there is no room for dissent of any kind. You do what you're told or you're sent back whence you came!
>
>So you see it isn't a question of "compete against the rest of the world's workforce" - there's no question in my mind that any workforce in the world is roughly comparable when given the opportunity. Rather, it is the "benefits" I enumerated above that make for prices that cannot be met in a country where the environment matters, where child-labour is outlawed, where there are safety standards for workers and where general exploitation has been curbed to give the worker some relief!
>
>The net result of companies "offshoring", by the way, is a displacement of the funding of governmental programs that we all rely on from the combined load of the corporation (taxes) and workers (taxes) to NO ONE!!! This results in governmental (all levels) deficits, which result first in layoffs and then in cuts in services to finally no more of many services (but don't worry, you'll always have a military and possibly the biggest one in the world soon when all the displaced workers join up as the only source of income left).
>
>Jim
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