Oh, Mere Mortals. The thread I pointed to was about learning .NET. Using MM as a learning tool was only one of many suggestions he made.

>The one mentioned prominently in the message you referenced. OakLeaf or something.
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>>>I do remember that, but I wasn't interested in the framework.
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>>You aren't interested in what framework?
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>>>I did look at some of the links, but I never found anything that said something about the quick and dirty of getting started. I like to figure a lot out on my own, but only after the environment is up and running.
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