Wow, thanks for the information Charles. It looks promising. I'll check it out. I looked at the system requirements and it states that Visual Studio 2002 or 2003 is only required if you want to modify or extend the generated source code. Since it appears to generate both VB and c# source code I wonder if just the professional version of either would suffice?


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>>What rad tool for ASP net did you choose? I'd definitely be interested. Did you test a few of them or determine you liked the first one you found?
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>I bought Iron Speed Designer. Having dealt with issues involved in designing, presenting and teaching a RAD tool/framework I looked at it from that perspective. I looked at a number of things that were out there, and this was the only product I saw beside MM .NET ( which I also own ) that would deal with all three tiers. It is a bit further down the road in its development life-cycle that MM as far as I can tell. You can definitely build a full parent-child-grandchild ASP .NET app against a SQLServer back end in either VB .NET or C# in five minutes ! There is a set of "safe classes" generated that will not be overwritten by regenerating code and a whole lot of the design stuff is very customizable. It is an impressive product. For $795 you get the professional version ( enterprise differs only in that it generates stored procs where the prof version writes SPT ) and a year maintenance ( which should cover the new verison for .net 2.0 )
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>Very good forum ( like VFE's ) on their website for peer to peer support. Very good training stuff. Extremely well documented code.
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>I like the architecture a lot. They also seem to be pretty robust in adding new features constantly as I am sure it is a very hot market ( god I wish my VFE training stuff had the same potential market - I'd never have to write another line of code :-)
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>You should definitely DL the full working version ( good for 15 days ) There are a number of videos on the website demonstrating how to use, extend and customize the product. If you check it out, let me know what you think..
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>http://www.ironspeed.com