Thanks. I'll give it a try...the idea that is...I haven't used GET/SAY since 3.0.

>Bob,
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>Maybe workaround from Re: Disappearing objects on forms Message #837086 will work for you.
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>>It does seem to have an effect, I can tell by putting this window over the app. it jumps all over the place but is refreshing. (I can't reproduce it exactly each time). However, I do want themes in this next version...so what's the cure?
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>>>Does setting _SCREEN.Themes=.F. fix the problem?