I've got to agree about Fox. People like Fred Barnes are unapologetically polemecists, but Britt Hume is one very bright guy ( and an old school-mate of Kerry's ). Krauthammer is a serious heavy hitter. I think Fox is pretty clear in labelling opinion as opinion. My objection to the "liberal" media is that they confuse "opinion" with "truth" There is a pretty substantial history in this area going back well into the Cold War and before. I would suggest anyone who finds history interesting to google the name Walter Duranty - whose picture still hangs on the wall in the NYT lobby.

I used to respect the NYT, but since Pinch Sulzberger has taken over they are no longer any kind of newspaper of record.

>>Imagine that, Fox News! Now there is an unbiased source.<s> We all know that 90% of the news sources are the "liberal media". Probably one of several reasons why GWB doesn't read the newspaper. If you don't like what you hear from the thousands of "liberal" news outlets and newspapers, you can always tune to Fox News to hear what you want to hear. Almost like the Michael Moore of the right, but a little less extreme IMHO.
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>Well, some think that, but I watch both because I trust no one. I have to agree though, on balance Fox News is much fairer. If you watch Hannity and Colmes - you'll get a conservative/republican debating a liberal/democrat - and they don't try to hide it. If you watch CNN, you'll get Larry King acting like he's being fair - he rarely is, but doesn't admit to being a liberal. I tend to be suspect of anything anyone tells me, until I've had a chance to check into it. For you liberal leaning lurkers (how's that for alliteration) why not give fox news a look and see what I mean?
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>John