>I want to see you put in writing that even Kerry said there were wmds and he voted to go to war (that was before he voted against it). DO YOU AGREE THAT KERRY SAID THERE WERE WMDs? If so, where's the beef? Everyone in a position to know said they were there and even Hillary voted for going to war.

For one, I'm not a big Kerry fan. For another, you'll have to provide something stating that Kerry saw the exact same intelligence Bush did on WMDs. Most of us were relying on the word of this administration.

Are you sure he voted to go to war, or was it that he voted to give the President the authority to go to war, because it's an important distinction.

>Who said we relied on their intelligence? I said it simply bolstered our intelligence. For one, I believe there were wmds there and they were moved before we got there.

WMDs were moved before we got there? What are you basing this on?

> Like this latest fiasco that Kerry has gotten himself into. Those 385 tons (a fraction of the 400k tons that have already been destroyed) were probably moved north while we fiddled around with the UN.

The point of that story is that the weapons were there in early March, and we didn't know they were gone until May. The first U.S. troops arrived on April 3rd, yet the Pentagon can't definitively tell us whether the weapons were taken before that April 3rd, or after April 3rd. There's only a couple of conclusions you can draw. Either we didn't have a plan for those weapons, or we didn't have enough troops to secure them. Take your pick.