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>I don't think Jesus would give his okay to kill innocents or [even] those that meant him harm. He would rather let them kill him than have them killed. He would ask that they be forgiven as he died.
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And your point is that we should let our enemies just kill us. Hmm, I don't think the Bible teaches that. Too many examples where the jews were told to go in and kill every living person; man, woman and child. The new testament presented a different approach, true, but you may remember Jesus losing his temper in the temple and physically throwing out the money changers. He actually resorted to physical violence. Then in romans, paul said to fear the centurion if you do wrong because he is an avenger there to execute the wrath of God and he carries the sword (an instrument of death) not in vain.

>What you espouse sounds an awful lot like what is known as "white trash" hate speak. The reminants of the old southern baptist convention that had the KKK as it's militant arm. You hide behing the words of a teacher that loved all and never instructed harm to anybody.>

Oh, I see you've been dipping in the sauce again. Grabbing those stereotypes again.


>You may or may not be - and if you are you may or may not change. Jesus never meant his name to be used as a mantra for hate and death. Jesus opposed the oppressive state. He taught tolerance and love for all things. I don't know the Jesus you know. You seem to walk lock step with the state and you are well adept at the rapid fire script your "betters" write for you.
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thanks, I think.<vbg> I'm actually a contrarian, but I'm also a cop, so I know a lot about how the government works and I don't like most of it. Waste, waste and more waste. If you have a project the first thing they try to do is get the least person qualified to oversee it, if they happen to be related to someone, that's a twofer. I've probably arrested a couple thousand people in my 30 years and most everytime, I think, but for the grace of God....

>You've admitted you were an "armagedden believer". So was Jim Jones. You have a lot to be proud of.

Help me follow the logic there? Jim Jones was a man, and he believed in Armageddon. I am a man and I believe in Armageddon, therefore, I'm Jim Jones. Hmmm, makes perfect sense to me.<s>