>>>My .02 worth.
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>>...and worth it;) But in this particular case had the code included This.parent I'd still be facing the same issue, since the parent would be the page frame itself.
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>Exactly! So what do you do but make concessions or create command button classes specifically for your pageframes?

You've hit on the heart of why I called it a philosophical issue. In this case, do I create command button classes specifically for this (anticipating I might again need this) or make concessions? I'm not really expecting an answer as in "Go forth and make classes", because I suppose you can overclass, or would that be declasse(where's that accent grave when I need it:) But seriously, I know that some people sub-class extensively perhaps for this very reason.