Jay,

>>>How are they a group? What defines them as belonging together? Do you propose that all "youth" be subjected to the 3-strikes rule or tossed out of the country? I'll have to go back through the thread, but I was pretty certain that we were not talking about a generic group of people, but rather one that has some commonality other than crime.

>>The commonality should be crime, but you'll see there are more commonalities within the group of crime.

You define a group by the crimes they commit. If you identify a group, you'll often see they are homgenous in ethnicity, religion and age. That is the difficult part. The problem always was that the police did not want to give them any excuse for discrimination so they tend to be much to tolerant. I think those days are over and we have to take some action.

Walter,