>>It's late on a Friday evening and I'm tired (not as tired as my brain!). How do you prevent the VFP screen from flashing up when you issue CLEAR EVENTS, RELEASE FORM to close a top-level form? I know this one is easy but I just can't remember!
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>_SCREEN.Visible = .F.
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>or in VFP 5.0 put SCREEN = OFF in your CONFIG.FPW file.

I've got all that - still no good. Edward Pikman suggested _screen.left=-2000 and that worked. Thanks anyway,