After you get Developer version, you can install just Sql Server client tools and continue to work with MSDE, if you want to.
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>I think thats what i'll go with then. i would have thought that msde would have some kind of visual admin stuff. normally i wouldn't care, as long as my program is able to do what its supposed to, but since i wanna test different stuff its easer to 'see' the results vissually.
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