>Not quite sure why you're doing all this??
>Just pick up thisform.colorf and b from any textbox selectedfore/back colors that use default colors...

It's not quite the same thing. Properties SelectedForeColor and SelectBackColor are distinct from SelectedItemForeColor and SelectedItemBackColor, and they may, in fact, have different values. It depends, again, on what the user has set in the Windows Control Panel, especially if the user is running something like the Windows Themes pack. So, I am trying to make the grid look like the specific settings from Windows for SelectedItem properties.