Level Extreme platform
Subscription
Corporate profile
Products & Services
Support
Legal
Français
Job Market Southern California
Message
From
28/11/2004 18:18:58
 
 
To
27/11/2004 15:12:07
General information
Forum:
Politics
Category:
Other
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
00952285
Message ID:
00965273
Views:
36
>>>>Hi Hilmar.
>>>>
>>>>But why would He send people with conficting message, especially the message concerning salvation?
>>>
>>>I don't think there are significant conflicts. Leaders of religion have often had the tendency to undermine the other faiths, but the basic message is one and the same.
>>
>>
>>Yes. The common theme seems to be love one another, this is universal.
>>
>>But when it come to person's salvation I think there is significant difference.
>>
>>For instance, Christian faith, you can't earn you way into salvation nor can you work yourself into salvation. Salvation is only by grace of God, a free gift through J. Christ. It's up to you to accept or reject the gift.
>>
>>In other religions, salvation is earned by being a "good" person by doing "good" deeds.
>
>But these really are the same thing, Dean.
>I mean, if a born-againer later goes around murdering people, robbing people, etc. then he ain't goin to heaven, regardless! Others will simply say that he wasn't REALLY 'born again' based on his deeds.
>So in the end everything comes down to good people doing good deeds.
>

Hi Jim.

I get your point. But doesn't it say that once your saved, your always saved?
But, one thing for sure in christianity, you can't earn your way into anything. I guess that's why they say, God doesn't want good deeds. They are like dirty rags to Him, but He wants (to change) your heart. I believe to Christians, goods are the by product of accepting Christ, not a means to go to "heaven".

If good deeds are all you need, then why do we God? All we would need is to be a good person. If I do 10 good things in my life and you only do 8 good things, does that mean I'm in and you're out? Or is anyone keeping score? :)

I think it's a fine line, but I think there definately a line there.
Personal religion is a tricky thing. That why I left DTS after 6 months, although I didn;t go there to became a clergy.
Work as if you don't need money
Love as if you've never been hurt before
Live as if this is your last day to live
Dance as if no one's watching
Previous
Reply
Map
View

Click here to load this message in the networking platform