Dragan,

It seems you agree with your good friends the Jesuits who famously claimed they could mould a child if given him/her until the age of 7!

Seriously, though, in these "slightly" more permissive days during the decline and fall of the Western Hegemony, it may not be possible to bring enough pressure- I mean nurturing- to bear on the children on the "worst" part of the bell curve. Rather than blaming parents or caregivers, perhaps we need to look to ourselves as societies.

>>So he needed a powerful church under his thumb... thus, the power of church was such that he couldn't or wouldn't just dismantle it or curb it...

If you are saying that it was the *concept* of church in the minds of the King and society that exerted influence, I agree. Any power allocated to the church came directly from its procreators, who presumably need to be blamed for subsequent bad behavior just as you choose to blame parents/others for subsequent bad behavior of a human child. ;-)

>>And why would unbelievers have to get organized at all? Are they threatened by something, or do they have an agenda?

Why did the USA get organized? Why does any group get organized? It is to meet a goal. If you say that being agnostic/atheist does not incline one towards community or shared goals, I accept that.