>>>Any HR records he has or attains will be severely tainted. I agree that his eye/hand coordination has ZIP to do with any doping he has done, but I can't help but believe that this doping did enhance his power and his HR production. He should receive a permanent ban from baseball because he does not deserve to pass Ruth and Aaron on the HR list. This is also far worse than any thing Pete Rose or Joe Jackson did to the game. At least they earned their HRs the old fashioned way. I also think his HRs from 2003 should be stricken from the record books.
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>>Mark,
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>>First of all, no court ever convicted Joe Jackson of throwing a game. In fact, if you look at the statistics he put up in the 1919 World Series, it's dubious that he did.
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>That was really my implied point about Joe Jackson.

Sorry, missed that.

>>Second, before we all start getting sanctimonious about this, it is, after all, just entertainment. No more, no less.
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>True, but when billions of $$ are involved in the sport, and these drugs have an adverse impact on other players tyring to earn a living the right way, then examples need to be set. Especially when we start looking at youth leagues, High Schools, etc. I think we saw what kind of pressure these kids were under when they started seeing that the only way to make it to the next level may be to start taking steroids. This is devastation on them and their families.

Charles Barkley once said, "I ain't no role model." The real role models should be the parents. Didn't the Charles Bronson character in "The Magnificant Seven" say something like that? I've seen too many parents, trying to live their lives vicariously through their children. My father didn't do that to me, and I haven't done it to my daughter or two sons. Eleven years ago, I told the boys, I'll help you all I can, but I can't give you the desire necessary to achieve what you want. That has to come from you.

>>Third, however, is Pete Rose. What he did, at the time was against the rules. What Bond's did, wasn't. It may have been against the law, but it wasn't against any policy that baseball had at the time.
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>Personally and unfortunately, I don't think any of these players have anything to worry about anyway. Bud Selig does not have the 'nads to do anything to them.