>In the case of complete beginners to VFP & OOP you're correct in that using a framework won't help them to learn the OOP concepts, however, if they're that new to VFP then they shouldn't be developing applications at all, except as a learning exercise and certainly not commercially.

That's why Frameworks are becoming a *Trap* to the people you have mentioned above, due to fact that new comers on VFP World have the tendendy to swallow everything they could just to learn the language the fastest way as they can, which to me, a counter productive, because learning VFP OOP is a step by step process.