Jess,

At this point I think we have to agree to disagree since we seem to be fairly convinced of our own viewpoint. Still, an interesting discussion neverthe less. Thanks.

>If framework will only be utilized as a 'model example', I beg to disagree that it is a good investment. There are a lot of good examples shipped with the product, and I would say complete examples with explanations, which to me are enough tools to really understand the intricacies of the language.