Hi Gary,

It's good and getting better. <s> What it does very well, right now, is encapsulate a lot of the knowledge Kevin, and now Rick, have about .Net, so I don't have to have that particular knowledge in order to do something.

As with ProMatrix, where we've added on probably 30% again as much code as the framework itself has (if one doesn't count xCase2VPM, in which case the amount added on is closer to 60%), the idea is to get a foundation on which to build.

Hank

>Hi Hank,
>
>I am aware that you are big into ProMatrix but your comments suggest that you *may* be using MM.Net. Is that correct? If so, how do you find the framework?
>
>Thanks,
>
>>Hi David,
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>>I followed that too. Kevin, meanwhile, has said that his plans for including ORM in MM.Net are still on.
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>>Hank
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>>>ObjectSpaces was supposed to be released with Whidbey (Visual Studio 2005) but instead was cut out and merged into WinFS, to be released with Longhorn in 2006. Then WinFS was cut from the first release of Longhorn. Now, there was news last week that WinFS may be released well after Longhorn. So now we're talking 2008-9!!!
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>>>The ObjectSpaces team has been disbanded (perhaps temporarily, but who knows). Effectively, for your strategic planning you have to consider it to be dead.
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>>>Now, the interesting question is why did Microsoft kill ObjectSpaces? The official reason is that they didn't want to release "another" data access methodology that would confuse people. My guess is that some program managers do not understand Object-Relational Mapping. They are the ones that are cofused, not the customers!
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>>>Go with some vendor that understands transparent persistence. The Java vendors have many years of providing solutions and architectural guidance in this area. The two that I mentioned, Versant and NHibernate, have very good offerings.
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