Hi John ---

>They are exposed. The fact that they are on www.microsoft.com/vfoxpro is not exposed enough. It is just as easy for a VB developer to look at those white papers as it is for me. Whether a VB - or some other developer outside the VFP community choose to lurk is beyond my control. If you go to the Visual Studio site, there is a link to the VFP site. If your beef is with the fact that there are a lack of links on MSDN, I would agree with you here. It would be nice to see at least 1 link at all times there.
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Expose as in "MSDN".


>>Yes, yes, and yes. But, doggone it (harsher words are in mind but I respect >Michels rules :)), how am I to justify VFP middleware to a client (or MIS >manager) if I do not have a single definitive reference from Microsoft?? Or >single ad detailing that function.
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>I am not sure who looks bad here... Microsoft or your client<s>. Then again, thats why folks like us exist<s>. Clients believe the propaganda and have no concept of the signal to noise ratio. Have you shown the client the VFP strategy backgrounder? Why do they not want to go with VFP? Be careful what you ask for as you might get it. They may bring up reasons which are totally legitimate for not wanting to go with VFP.
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The "Backgrounder" is too generalized. Most client managers don't know squat about legitimate technical reasons for anything -- they go with what has been marketed to them.

>Yes, VB developers often have a hard time understanding data in general. With respect to your posts, you really got into a flame war over there and was actually pretty disappointed in that. Sorry to say, but you did post some inaccurate stuff over there.
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Yeah, I know....but so did they. I'm a big boy, I can handle the flame wars.

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>There are case studies and whitepapers from MS with regard to VFP. Also, it depends on what you are doing. Some things are better done in VFP - others are better done in VB. If I were you, I would get an hour of that managers time, and show him VFP and VB side by side and PROVE to him why VFP is better. You need to be a salesman here. Nobody said it would be easy.
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@*Y#%@#%@ --- You miss the point. Why should I have to go out of my way to prove something that MS should be helping me to prove? That was the entire rationale behind the original post.

See ya

John