>Yes that is what I have. Tell me about the pageframe problem and houw to solve it, please?

I think what Nadya was getting to was that your needs to include the full path to the stopwatch. It can't be Thisform.stopwatch but rather Thisform.Pageframe.Page....stopwatch

If she's right.......GOOD CATCH Nadya. I hadn't come close to thinking of this as a possibility.