What you say is true--that you don't really know if a person is online; however you have a much more accurate picture on the UT than an "average site", because of the auto-refresh stuff that runs in the toolbar.

Of course, being on-line doesn't mean paying attention either. With tabbed browsers, it's really easy to completely forget you're logged in here.

-- Randy

>When the session times out, log off the user. You never know if a person is really online or not...just that they've had activity in the last x number of minutes.
>
>
>>hi all,
>>i was wondering how a site, like this, can tell if a user is online. i am trying to do this on a smaller scale, but i never get proper results, say if a user clowes the browser rather than logs off. i am using asp and iis with vfp dll's and database.
>>Slán
>>~M