I suggest you don't bother with this. Return a cursor and grab your value from the cursor.

>thanks for the response Mark,
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>but doesn't the cursor adapter always return a cursor? or do you mean that there's some some way that we can put output parameters on the "SelectCmd"? Does that mean also that the cursorfill method wouldn't be called?
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>Actually I usually use SQLEXEC but since I'm starting to use cursoradapters thinking that microsoft designed it to kind of be the "thing" to use then I'm trying to see how things work with it.