Not that I'm the biggest MS fan in the world, but this thread is getting a bit ridiculous. These guys ought to give you a break at some point or maybe you should just ignore these guys for awhile. Hey people, it's not like Ken's the Devil incarnate or anything.

>>and because the name .Net is not there no more, VFP can come back in the box.
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>>Wow I did'nt see that one coming. Mr. Levy did some nice work on that.
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>>Nobody will be able to accuse MS of false representation because .Net won't be written on the box. So buyers will get a bunch of .Net tools and VFP. All in the same box.
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>There are no plans to add any product into the Visual Studio box that is not within the Visual Studio environment, including VFP. If you want a bundle, you can get MSDN Subscriptions like many developers do - that is the best bundle/value for more than one product.