>Not quite sure what you mean -- _screen is always off here.

Right, it is not a requirement for toolbars to appear inside the form.


>Yes, quite so...though if your form's going to fire Activate many times, you can also Show just once in the Init instead...

The Init() is too early. However, you bring a valid point about firing the Activate() more than once. If this will be the case, you can create a custom property of the form that is toggled to .T. once the toolbar has been displayed. From that point on, the Activate() will not re-fire the code.