> In fact I think I can say with some certainty that the uninsured people in US may even get better treatment then patients in countries that have "socialized" health care.

That's completely untrue. Our system has some problems, but your statement is a gross exaggeration.

Here is some of my families medical expenses over the last few years:
- seeing specialist for fertiliy treatments over 3 year period: $200. This $200 was optional, but my doctor had a test that he wanted our acedemic hospital to do.
- wife had a child, private room. Consulting from obstetrician, and other specialists. 1-1 nurse. Some time in the OR. $0
- Dad had two heart attacks in the last 6 months resulting in a double-bypass surgery at the best cardiac hospital in Western Canada. Total stay of 6 weeks in ICUs, general wards, CSICU's, emerg. Total cost $100 for an air ambulance from his small town to Vancouver.