>>>You wait. If we don't win it this year it'll be from such a decision, and we'll end up losing out on the old penalty shoot-out.
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>England? Win it? Whith what? They sucked big time. The only reason they won was a good shot from Beckham and a galie that was not positioned properly and should have studied Beckham expertise in those types of shots and be more prepared. IMHO they did not deserve the win.

Nonsense! Admitted, England didn't play well the 1st half but the 2nd they were great. Several shots were on target but were saved.

Deserve it or no, it's not always that England manage to get through the group stage without relying on such-and-such losing or whatever. Tournaments in the past they HAVE looked like deserving to win but have been robbed by crap refs and/or linesmen (ARs). So maybe it's our turn to play rubbish but scrape through to lifting the cup. After all, as you know, there have been so many bad decisions this tournament (and that's WITHOUT allowing a man to stay on with 3 yellow cards against him!)

You never know, ENgland teams in the past have struggled in the earlier stages but shone in the later, only to be shafted by cheats and/or bad refereeing.

I was rooting for plucky Australia (dreams of an England-Australia "Test Match" final) and the result WAS a travesty. It's well time that the tyranny of the "ref's decision is final" (a rule set up before TV) was amended to allow viewing of TV footage in cases of disputed decisions. It's far too unfair that a team can lose because one man is blind, or stupid, or too stubborn to retract his knee-jerk, unconsidered reaction.

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>As for the referee's decisions being somewhat suspect I'm not a conspiracy theorist by I'm starting to have some doubts.
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>Argentina-Mexico was a good game and either could have won. But Argentina ghad a disallowed goal or no reason.
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>The card game (Holland-Portugal) was unacceptable. 19 yellows and 4 reds on 22 players?
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>Ukraine-Switzerland was as bad as they come. And Ukraine can now say they are one of the top 8 in the world? Ridiculous. Switzerland could not even score 1 penalty kick out of 3! Talk about luck for Italy which is almost guaranteed a pass to the next round. You could put both Ukraine *and* Switzerland, all 22 against Italy and Italy would win. Talk about easy.
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>We'll get the definitive answer on fair refereeing or being rigged Friday in Germany vs Argentina. We'll see.