>>You are ignoring the question. Israel pulls out of occupied territory and continues to get attacked. What did the pullout accomplish?
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>Almost six years of peace on that border.

What peace? Hezbollah lobbing rockets and mortars and Israel not responding? That's your idea of peace?

>>We're going in circles. You say Israel should pull out, then the occupied people will stop.
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>And they'll be a people, not second class citizens on an occupied territory. If they apply terrorism after that, they'll have lost the moral high ground.

OK so we agree then. Hezbollah has lost the moral high ground since they continued their attacks after Israel pulled out. And since Israel started the withdrawl from Gaza in 2005 and the attacks continued, what should we conclude?

>>Israel did begin a pullout of Gaza in 2005. I remember them uprooting the settlers by force. I also remember that Hammas started lobbing mortars from there newly acquired, closer position to Israel.
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>The distance between any two neighboring countries is always zero, you know.

The range of a mortar is finite, you know.

>>Then there was that kidnapping, you know the one before the Hezbollah incursion took away all the attention.
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>Yes, and there were bombings of Gaza etc etc - each side can claim to be reacting to a previous action of the other side. Israel just has more influence on the media to push their version further and deeper. This goes in circles any number of times you want.

Ahh the old jewish media argument. I commend you for not firing this one earlier. My circle is older than yours. Jewish slaves fled Egypt thousands of years before Muhammed arrived on the scene. :)

>>If Israel goes back to the 1967 borders their enemy will simply consider it another victory on the way to the ultimate goal. The attacks will continue and be more deadly (because they are closer and bolder). "Palestine, from the river to the sea" is the goal.
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>When you negotiate something, don't you start with some extra requests that are to be discarded in the process? Ask for fifty and be glad with twenty? It's clear to Arabs that Israel will stay; the "push into the sea" is, IMO, just flaming rhetoric, playing to the sentiment of the people. But I think their politicians are willing to trade for peace.

Like Arafat? Like Hammas? What in the world makes you believe this?

>And they know that any international support they may have would vanish once they try to grab more than the 1967 borders.

It is disappearing now. Notice the arab states' meeting?
Did you see the pro-Israel rally in San Francisco, of all places?
The fact remains that Israel pulled out and was continually attacked. The same will happen in Gaza and the West Bank unless the terrorists are destroyed.