>I tested the timer and it's fine.
>the only code I have in the Timer.Timer event is thisform.release()
>the main prg calls the form: do form intro
>and the init for the form has all the properties set for the title bar to be off.
>the form is modeless, always on top, and set as top-level
>Cetin helped me out with a menu earlier and i can;t get it to load in the form, it always loads in the foxpro main window.
>
>I've pretty much exhausted all my limited knowledge and resources, thanks for the support
>
>Perry
Aha, I didn't know that "menu" was a subject of an SDI form. I agree with Jim at this point, unless you're really comfortable with SDI forms, don't use them (not to discourage you). If you ever gonna use that way take a look at solutions.app (from help select sample apps and run solution). It has an example of SDI form menus and menus coordinating with toolbars.
For that timer all I left is to think "something" is preventing it to fire ??? To check, before thisform.release add something like - wait window "I fired" -. Good luck.
Cetin