>>IMHO, both these two laws are offending free speach right.
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>>If someone is dumb enough to say/preach publicly that WW2 Holocaust did not happen, then he/she is already severely *punished*. No further action needs to be taken. Except maybe mandatory appointment with shrink.
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>I disagree on this one. The countries that have a law that forbids people to deny the holocaust have a very good reason for that law. Sure, those who deny the holocaust are ridiculed by many of us, but not by all. Not all people have enough knowledge about the holocaust, either due to young age or due to a lack of interest. The law must prevent that these people start doubting the horrors of WWII. The effect could be devastating. I think freedom of speech is about freedom to express an opinion, not about a freedom to deny the real facts or introduce unreal 'facts'. It is not a right to lie.

Well, then we hv to agree to disagree.
I think it is way outdated, and most of all - contraproductive.
Young people learn about ww2 holocaust in schools, there are thousands of books written, 100s of movies made about it etc. Everybody on this planet knows about it. So why have law against denying it on top of all that ?

I could agree any day on any law against free-proliferation of NeoNazie, radical religeous, rasistic parties/organisations/movements/materials.
They are far more of a danger to our societies.

I don't know what 'devastating effects' you hv in mind, don't you think it is little of an overstatement ? And WHO are those people you are refrring to ?

One of *effects* of having it, is introduction of this 'Armenian' law, which can infact
cause havoc/storm in EU<>Turkey relationship.
Turkey drifting apart from EU, is far more dangerous to Jews as population, then some drunk quazy-intelectual loosing his mind at bar-closing hours, and saying *that*.