>PS -- Wake up Microsoft! See VFP for what it really is...a Powerbuilder killer!
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It's definitely a PB killer.

Comment for another reply -- I disagree that people here are afraid to speak out or up to MS about VFP. There are many here who are in frequent with Robert Green and others at MS. These people have been made painfully aware of *our* side, opinions, needs (marketing, functional, etc.) and obstacles to selling VFP to customers.

I have been a regular on this forum for over a year, and I have seen significant progress from MS over this time. Granted, I want to see more, but I will take what I can get. Our Agency, EPA has 10 Regional offices across the country and a national headquarters in Washington DC. EPA does not really have a development tools standard much less one for VFP. Our region selected VFP as our standard because of a competition we set up between Oracle's tools and VFP (I handled the VFP side). This went against all our other Regions and HQ who generally use PB, Oracle Power Objects, Developer 2000, Case Tools, etc. Visual dBase is the standard for our users to replace the dBaseIII DOS version (ugh). Our Region has bucked this by going to MS Access for general staff use for individual and very small databases. VFP is our standard for major DB apps. We use Oracle if we need more horses for a backend.

And... you better believe people that *matter* at MS have seen sights and products like these (the UT, Web-Connect, Surplus City, etc) that are driven by VFP and are realizing how good the product is. The VFP Awards, although not completely inclusive of all possible contestants, is another good indication of progress.

Our heads are not in the sand. Enough alarms go off here when erroneous information is published, web sites are provided, and UT members jump over to these sites to *spam* these uninformed *journalists* with the facts on VFP.